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***UPDATE - A Jewish school in Montreal was firebombed last week... SCROLL for details***

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***UPDATE - Only One Gunman (previous reports as many as 2 or 3)***

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This story is still breaking, and few details are known, but this is what has been reported so far, via AP:

MONTREAL - A suspect in at shooting at a Montreal college turned the gun on himself, police said Wednesday. Several shots were heard Wednesday at a building at Dawson College, and students told a radio station that four people had been hit.

One student at the school told radio station 940 News that she saw two people who had been shot, including one who was hit in the neck. The student said a friend told her four people had been shot.

TV footage showed students fleeing the building, which is near downtown.

Probably just some random crazy, but it raises an interesting point that goes to the heart of why I will never watch a Michael Moore film again. Before he was famous, I went and saw Bowling for Columbine, thinking it was a documentary on the Columbine tragedy. I wasn't that political at all at the time, but I had an uneasy feeling from the minute the film began.

If you've never seen it don't waste your time, because I'd hate to rob a couple hours of your life so that you could listen to a bunch of spun statistics misleading splicing of video, out of context quoting. It's the usual Moore mantra, America sucks, America is evil, America causes all violence in the worldl, take away guns, why does the show "COPS" only show black people (even though almost everytime I've ever seen it it's a shirtless drunk guy picking up a Mexican transvestite hooker, or trying to escape his trailer with some pills after beating his wife, etc. etc.)

It wasn't until a year later that I thought back on how off that movie had seemed, and what an anti-American vibe it gave off that I found this link that helps unspin what Moore spun. Not as thorough as Fifty-nine Deceits in Fahrenheit 9/11, but definitely worth using as a guide if you have seen the movie or decide to watch it.

Anyway, my issue is with the fact that Moore keeps treating Canada as some sort of model for us. He keeps pounding this "point" that we are so much more violent than other countries, but using shady methods like using raw numbers, versus homicide rates to account for big differences in population from country to country.

Moore's deception goes from beginning to end, but I just wanted to point out that he continues to bash us for not being more Canada-like, yet here we have an example of some nutty shooter in Canada. Is there a chance that the shooter (or shooters, as FNC is now reporting) is not Canadian? Yes. But my point stands about Moore's deception, and I thought this story gave me an opening to link you to that Bowling for Columbine debunking.

***UPDATE - CTV.COM***

Two suspected gunmen are dead in a chaotic shooting scene at a college in downtown Montreal that has left three people in critical condition.

"Government sources are saying two of the gunmen are dead," said CTV's Jed Kahane, reporting from Montreal. "One may have taken his own life, the other was shot by police."

"All of a sudden I turned around and saw a man dressed in black with a huge assault rifle," she said.

"I saw the gunman who was dressed in black and at that time he was shooting at people. It was probably one of the most frightening moments of my life," Boyer said.

Sound familiar?

Today's incident is horrifyingly reminiscent of another school shooting in Montreal. On Dec. 6, 1989, Marc Lepine shot 27 female engineering students at the Ecole Polytechnique, killing 14, before fatally shooting himself.

I'd be interested to hear Moore's comments on that. Nah, instead he'll wheel a paralyzed Columbine victim in to a Walmart and then Walmart's corporate offices to throw a fit and make a scene because they sell ammunition. You know, because it wasn't the fault of the kids who shot everyone. It was Walmart.

***UPDATE***
This as the story develops it seems to be a much bigger deal than initially reported. If you're near a TV flip on one of the cable news channels. Sounds like there are quite a few injured.

CTV now reporting multiple injuries:

Two suspected gunmen are dead in a chaotic shooting scene at a college in downtown Montreal that has sent 12 victims in hospital.

Twelve victims of the shooting have been taken to hospital for treatment, including six in critical condition, two considered serious, and four listed in stable condition.

Earlier I heard Shep Smith ask someone in Montreal if Dawson was a predominently Jewish school after he'd received emails stating that. The woman on the phone said "no", but I figured I'd do a news search on "jewish" and "montreal". Well I quickly found articles about a firebombing of a jewish boys school just last week. I'm not saying they're related or that today's incident is any kind of Islamic Terrorism (though I think it certainly should be considered a terrorist act, just not necessarily connected to Islamofascism). But it's important to keep all incidents in mind:

MONTREAL -- With tensions still high over the war between Israel and Lebanon, Jewish community leaders in Montreal promised Tuesday there will be heightened security and increased vigilance following the firebombing of a Hasidic school.

They were careful to point out the motive for the attack is still unknown but said they worry there will be further violence directed toward the Jewish community.

But "it's a fair question to wonder whether or not the gathering of 15,000 Quebecers under the flag of Hezbollah, unfortunately further legitimized by the presence of politicians, whether that creates an atmosphere where fanatics draw the conclusion that violence against Jews is somehow acceptable."

Thousands, including some politicians, marched in the city earlier this summer in support of Lebanon during the Israeli bombardment.

In support of Lebanon? Or in support of Hezbollah. Let's be real.

Security cameras, installed after another Jewish school was firebombed two years ago, were rolling as a man threw a Molotov cocktail through the window of the front doors at the Skver-Toldos Orthodox Boys School early Saturday morning.

So who were the 2004 firebombers? Lone firebombmen? "Mentally ill" people?

Many security measures were put in place after the United Talmud Torahs elementary school library was torched in April 2004.

Sleiman El-Merhebi was released from prison in May after serving two-thirds of his 40-month sentence for arson.

His mother, Rouba El-Merhebi Faud, will return to court Sept. 25, when she is expected to have a date set for her trial on being an accessory after the fact.

Wait, they sound like Muslims, hands off! They were just expressing their free speech and delivering the message of the "religion of peace" to the violent Jewish elementary school students. You know, the resistance! Damn those elementary school CANADIAN Jews and their military killing Muslims and occupying their land.. oh wait.

And why was this guy only sentenced to 40-months, and worse only made to serve two-thirds of that. What is that, like 24 months? For something that is at miminum a hate crime! I wonder if an unhinged right-winger were to firebomb a gay building or abortion clinic, they'd get the same deal? Somehow I don't think so.

Read the rest...

Arutz Sheva at least reports that the incident last week is being called a "hate crime" by local police.

Related - Canadian CEO blasts wide-spread anti-semitism in Canada.

*UPDATE*
More on past Canadian school shootings.