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Hot Shots Part III: Charlie Sheen Gets Fitted For A Tin-Foil Hat

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h/t Michelle Malkin

Alright, I don't want to give this much attention because the 9/11 conspiracy theories have been debunked if you simply seek the information. Not to mention that common sense tells you that there is no way to have kept it under wraps considering there would need to be hundreds if not thousands of people "in on it" (right down to eye-witness civilians)

Anyway, Charlie Sheen has joined the tinfoil hat club and is now a 9/11 conspiracy theorist. Perhaps he's upset because someone just told him that his dad was just a TV President, and that his show was cancelled. Anyway, he's joined the ranks of all the other internet loonies who think that there is some kind of big conspiracy behind 9/11 and that it was possibly and "inside job", etc.

Again, I don't want to waste to much time on such idiocy, but I have to tell you my first thought on this when I clicked the link from Michelle Malkin's blog. The first thing I saw when I got to the "article", was the headline and subheadline:

Charlie Sheen Questions Official 9/11 Story

Calls for truly independent investigation, joins growing ranks of prominent credible whistleblowers...

Anything strange about that to you? First of all who are these "prominent credible whistleblowers", and why is Sheen one of them? What makes him "credible"? Because his nutcase views are aligned with the nutcase views of the writers of the article? Or is it because he's a celebrity, so these conspiracy theorists who lurk around in the shadows think that they've somehow captured mainstream attention? Anyway, the first paragraph begins the same way:

Actor Charlie Sheen has joined a growing army of other highly credible public figures in questioning the official story of 9/11 and calling for a new independent investigation of the attack and the circumstances surrounding it.

Am I just misunderstanding something? Seriously, explain to me why Charlie Sheen of all people is "highly credible" in this area? Is he some sort of specialist in building demolition of forensic video analysis or something? I just don't get why he's "highly credible". Someone please explain this to me.

Here's a little about Mr. Credibility (via wikipedia) for those of you who aren't familiar:

Sheen has been dogged by trouble, including drugs and a shooting, and he has frequently had problems with the police. Though he was involved with a number of Hollywood personalities, his long-term relationship with adult actress Ginger Lynn in the late 1990s garnered the most media attention. In 1993, his name was found among Hollywood Madam Heidi Fleiss' list of her most frequent customers, and it was revealed that Sheen hired top-class prostitutes and spent huge amounts on escort agencies. During this time, he also had a serious cocaine addiction.

Sheen was married to Donna Peele from September 3, 1995 to November 19, 1996. He then married another actress, Denise Richards, on June 15, 2002. They had two daughters, Sam J. Estevez (born March 9, 2004), and Lola Rose Estevez (born June 1, 2005). In March 2005, Richards filed for divorce, but the couple were able to reconcile briefly afterwards. In January 2006, Richards continued with the divorce.

Sheen also has a daughter by former girlfriend Paula Profit, Cassandra Estevez (born 1985).

Now if those don't all make him an authority on the real story of 9/11, I don't know what does!

Anyway, after seeing the headline and opening sentence I realized I couldn't be on a legit news site so I glanced up to see that I was at GlobalResearch.ca or the Centre For Research On Globalization. Then I looked at the writer's names, Alex Jones and Paul Joseph Watson. I haven't heard of Paul Watson, but Alex Jones is by far the God among American conspiracy theorists, 9/11 and otherwise. This guy is just beyond crazy. Actually my own little conspiracy theory about him is that he knows what he talks about is crazy, but is making money doing it. Anyway, I don't want to promote him, so I'm not going to link to all his other pages (though I'm sure many of you have heard of them).

After seeing what kind of site I was on, I wanted to be sure so I figured I would take a quick glance at their home page to confirm my suspicions. It didn't take long. Here's part of a screen shot I cropped to fit to show you all:

That's right, Bush with a nuclear explosion going off and talk about him plotting to nuke Iran... Here's a slightly bigger version of just the picture:

Predictably, it would seem the KOS kids (among many other tin-foil hat bloggers) think Sheen is a pile of credibility and they are overjoined at this insanity. By the way, don't let your self get dragged in to being a "believer". I almost did once, but quickly remembered to be a skeptic, did a little research and realized that anyone who is actually "credible" has debunked this nonsense time and time again. Just have your google handy, and you'll remain on the same planet as the rest of us.

Others:
Blogmeister USA, Old Controller, The Jawa Report, Say Anything Blog, Right Wing News, Moonbat Monitor, Sagebrusher, Lawhawk, Punaro

By the way, Right Wing News points to one of the most known pieces used for debunking the conspiracy theories, by Popular Mechanics, but there are many more out there.

UPDATE:
Expose the Left has the audio, if you can stomach it.

 

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Popular Mechanics Attacks Its
"9/11 LIES" Straw Man

by Jim Hoffman
Version 1.2, February 9, 2005

The Hearst-owned Popular Mechanics magazine takes aim at the 9/11 Truth Movement (without ever acknowledging it by that name) with a cover story in its March 2005 edition. Sandwiched between ads and features for monster trucks, NASCAR paraphernalia, and off-road racing are twelve dense and brilliantly designed pages purporting to debunk the myths of 9/11.

The article's approach is to identify and attack a series of claims which it asserts represent the whole of 9/11 skepticism. It gives the false impression that these claims, several of which are clearly absurd, represent the breadth of challenges to the official account of the flights, the World Trade Center attack, and the Pentagon attack. Meanwhile it entirely ignores vast bodies of evidence showing that only insiders had the means, motive, and opportunity to carry out the attack.

Read the rest of the article here:

http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/pm/

P.S. Homeland Security chief Michael Chertoff's 25-year old cousin, Benjamin Chertoff, penned the Popular Mechanics piece on 9/11 sceptics. This is a represents a huge conflict of interest.

Do your own research.

Watch this video and tell me it does not raise some questions:

"9/11 Revisited: Were explosives used?"
http://youtube.com/watch?v=psP_9RE0V2I


Watch the video of this speech wich origionally aired on C-Span:

The 9/11 Commission Report: Omissions and Distortions
David Ray Griffin

Description: David Ray Griffin takes a critical look at the official 9/11 Commission Report. Professor Griffin argues that "omissions and distortions" in the report amount to a cover-up by government officials and says that the available evidence suggests that the Bush administration was complicit in the 9/11 attacks. Professor Griffin covers topics he says have been inadequately answered by the commission. These include questions surrounding the attack on the Pentagon, the way in which the World Trade Center towers collapsed, and the behavior of President Bush and his Secret Service detail following notification that a second plane had hit the WTC. The talk was hosted by the Muslim-Jewish-Christian Alliance for 9/11 Truth (www.mujca.com) and took place at the University of Wisconsin in Madison. Includes Q&A.

Author Bio: David Ray Griffin is professor emeritus at the Claremont School of Theology, where he taught for over 30 years (retiring in 2004). He has authored or edited over two dozen books, including "God and Religion in the Postmodern World," "Religion and Scientific Naturalism," and "The New Pearl Harbor: Disturbing Questions About the Bush Administration and 9/11."

http://www.911blogger.com/2005/04/proper-release-of-griffin-in-madison.html

MIT Engineer Explains WTC Controlled Demolition:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1822764959599063248

I have watched the ridiculous videos, and almost got pulled in until I made sure to check for debunking evidence and realized how ridiculous you all truly are.

A couple things...

First, I want you to admit that you lied about Ben Chertoff writing the Popular Mechanics piece. First he's a researcher and there were many more writers on the piece.

Next, I want you to prove that he's related to Michael Chertoff and even if you do that, prove that he knows him and has ever had any contact with him. You made the claim, time for you to prove it.

Don't come with any whacko conspiracy theory web site claiming it... Give me a reliable source or nothing.

I'm on the edge of my seat waiting for it... I'll wait to see what you got before I waste my time with the rest of it

Operation Northwoods:

In 1962 the Joint Chiefs of Staff were going to paint a plane like a commercial airliner and swap it with a real one. Then they were gonna shoot it down and blame Castro for it. Then go to war against Cuba using this fake terrorism.

I think maybe they finally got around to it on Sept 11, 2001

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods

Wow, most of you neocons are quite a piece of work. You have all probably watched a piece of the JFK assasination but to look at 911 again is too much to ask? Grow up. You think the rich care about anything except thier unbelievably expensive lifestyles. The only somewhat intelligent question I have seen here asks WHY?. Well maybe if you worked for close, billionaire friends of the Bushes, you might realize these people are not going to go back to being plain jane. Nobody would like going back to reality. To believe we don’t have the money or technology to implement an attack like this is trully absurd. Why was there way less people on the four flights than normal? Coincidence? Or caps on the number of tickets? Where is all the friggin’ tape? Pictures, video camera’s of the pentagon being hit? Why isn’t it out there? World trade tower 7? There is a video made by PBS that includes the building’s owner saying that they decided to “Pull it” after the attacks and fires in WTC 7? Controlled demolition setup in a matter of hours? Unheard of. This was a steel building also, 40 Stories tall, the top was a reinforced control station for the mayor (fact). The fires in WTC7 were filmed and were not bad enough to collaspe the building even though they have admitted to taking it down on purpose. All the lies about the air quality in New York afterwards? Come on now, you see someone that looks the part of a gay cowboy, pretends to be down to earth, and you know his father and you believe he’s a good person. You talk about Charlie Sheen, well lets look back into the President’s history of drugs(cocaine), alcohol (DUI’s), and buddies (hot tub Tom Delay as the locals used to call him before he went big and shaved his porn mustache). Jack Abramhoff- good friend, that’s why he’s in court. What else do you people need? I’m not currently a republican or democrat because I don’t trust either one(or anyone currently in the government for that matter). If you worked in these people’s houses everyday, then maybe you too would see what motivates these people, what they waste their free time doing, and how completely out of touch they are with the poor. Maybe you’ll dream of burning to death with a bunch of woman and children someday and wake the f up.

Dude, step back and look at yourself. You're insane.

First, you're doing what you accuse us of not doing. Going blindly without questioning what you hear. I've watched the videos and the "rapid fire" style is very good at almost pulling you in... But if you keep an open mind and seek debunking information you'll find it's everywhere..

As for money and technology to pull it off? Sure. But what about the thousands of people involved, but no whistleblowers? Come on, are you really that stupid?

All your "pull it" talk, and all that other BS has explanations... you just enjoy the conspiracy theory too much to look for them. You feel part of something, you feel involved, and it's exciting to you... but because you're psychologically predisposed to jumping on conspiracy theories doesn't make it real.

You want people to watch videos? How about reading this extremely indepth report with many photos YOUR sites conveniently leave out, that destroys conspiracy theories as they pertain to the Pentagon specifically:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/911_pentagon_757_plane_evidence.html

Press Release

Christians support Charlie Sheen’s 9/11 conspiracy comments
Charlie Sheen and the left aren’t alone with questioning 9/11

(San Diego, CA) The Resistance, a conservative Christian group based in San Diego California, is showing support for actor Charlie Sheen after his questions about the official story of the September 11th attacks sparked sweeping reactions around the world. John Conner, spokesperson for The Resistance, goes further than Sheen and insists the September 11th attacks were not only purposefully allowed to happen by elements within the government, but the attacks were planned by corrupt factions within the U.S. government.

Such ideas are not fringe conspiracy theories, but serious charges with various respectable and prominent supporters. Many have either alleged a cover up, or that elements within the U.S. government let the attacks happen on purpose, or that they actually planned the attacks. These include former presidential advisor and CIA analyst Ray McGovern, the father of Reaganomics and former Assistant Secretary of the US Treasury Paul Craig Roberts, BYU physics Professor Steven Jones, former German defense minister Andreas von Buelow, former MI5 officer David Shayler, former Blair cabinet member Michael Meacher, former Chief Economist for the Department of Labor during President George W. Bush's first term Morgan Reynolds and many more.

Starting the long line of evidence, Conner starts with Operation Northwoods, a declassified document showing the U.S. government planned to commit terrorism on U.S. soil in Miami and Washington D.C. “Declassified documents, memos, and mainstream news reports all paint a dark picture about what really happened that tragic morning” Explains Conner.

For those people who don’t know, the terrorist attacks on September 11th were not an ‘intelligence failure’ as the official story states. The attacks were not only allowed to happen as a pretext, or a reason to get the population behind the war, but the hijackers were assets of the CIA, just like Osama Bin Laden. President Bush signed Presidential Decision Directive W199i, pulling FBI agents off of the suspected terrorists, ensuring they could continue their work, and the treason gets worse.

Despite popular belief, the CIA had run ‘drills’ of jets being hijacked and being used as weapons and the envisioned targets were the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. The anthrax which was sent through the mail following the suicide attacks was also an inside job perpetrated to create even more fear, ensuring the Patriot Act would pass and to get the American people to completely submit to the plans of the New World Order.

Aside from a pretext to the war on terror and the war in Iraq, the events have since been used to instill a sense of fear in the American people, and are being used to create a Police State in America, circumventing the constitution, and using RFIDs, VeriChip, and security cameras to keep track of every person.

Why would the Federal Government leave the U.S. borders wide open and why would Bush call the Minutemen volunteers ‘vigilantes’ if dark-skinned Arab terrorists are trying to sneak into our country to commit terrorism? Shouldn’t Bush have sealed the borders by noon on September 11th?

Conner and legions of others have been ‘culture jamming’ radio talk shows such as Alan Colmes, Sean Hannity, Michael Savage, and even Larry King Live in order to get out their message that the threat of terrorism is being exploited to erode the Constitution. This Orwellian Police State is the result of government sponsored terrorism and the Illuminati's work to build their New World Order. Due to editorial and political censorship our voices are often stifled, but there is an enormous underground movement against the New World Order.

John Conner is the author of The Resistance Manifesto which is available exclusively at www.TheResistanceManifesto.com, is a shocking analysis of the Satanic influences and practices in every facet of society from the main stream media, to the private practices of the American Illuminati elite. It is a blueprint of the institutions, people, and powers at work within the New World Order.

Contact: John Conner, author
Website: www.TheResistanceManifesto.com

Way to "spread the message" you idiot, by leaving comments with your "press release" on people's blogs? You are such a clown, right down to "John Conner"... Yeah, we get it you're the Terminator, we see the sunglasses on the picture on your ridiculous site. Sadly, you aren't a "Christian", you're hiding behind that, just like the Hitler wasn't a Christian.

I like how this is supposed to be a "press release" but it's clearly written by you or another like minded nut... Anyway, get back to believing that with all the thousands of people that would have to have been involved, we haven't had one whistleblower, and ignore the proof that flight 77 did hit the Pentagon, etc. etc. etc. Drink the Kool-Aid, and don't ever check if there is legit information to debunk the whole thing out there...

WHy don't you take issue with Mr. Sheen's comments, rather than angage in personal attacks on his past? Because you can't dispute what he said? Because the official story of 911 makes the Warren Commission findings look like a little white lie by comparison? Because you neo-con idiots are unable or unwilling to think for yourselves and instead choose to believe what you are told without question? You sicken me.

I completely agree with Mike. Debate the evidence instead of personally attacking if you know so much!

Eyewitnesses' and Experts' Testimonies Consistent With Allegations of Deliberate Demolitions
Compiled and edited with summary and notations by Abel Ashes

Notice: This is a collection of sourced quotations from firefighters, news anchors, reporters, office workers, and other survivors of and eyewitnesses to the controlled demolitions of WTC. This paper is very incomplete at this stage. I have two notebooks full of additional on-the-record statements that add to this body of evidence. I don’t have time to type all of them right now. I will update this document periodically.

Summary:
The Twin Towers of the World Trade Center were each struck by large commercial aircraft on September 11th 2001. Both sustained major damage from both the impacts of and the fires resulting from the crashes of the airliners. A series of unexplained events commenced throughout the remainder of the day. These events include the explosions of and complete disintegration of nearly all non-steel materials comprising each of the Twin Towers, the implosion and complete collapse of WTC Building 7, and the near total destruction of WTC Building 6.

The North Tower, also known as 1 World Trade Center, was struck by a large commercial airliner at 8:46 AM EDT. 102 minutes, that’s one hour and forty-two minutes later the North Tower exploded into a cloud of dust and debris. Within 15 seconds the entire 110 story skyscraper had been reduced to a pile of fractured steel beams and a light powdery substance comprised of atomized concrete, glass, gypsum, and fiberglass insulation that flooded Lower Manhattan like a tsunami, leaving Lower Manhattan covered in a “snow-like substance.” The massive antenna on top of the North Tower survived the demolition intact, while everything below it was completely destroyed.

The South Tower, also known as 2 World Trade Center, was struck by a large commercial airliner at 9:03 AM EDT. 56 minutes later, that’s less than an hour, the South Tower exploded into a cloud of dust and debris. Within 15 seconds the entire 110 story skyscraper had been reduced to a pile of fractured steel beams and a light powdery substance comprised of atomized concrete, glass, gypsum, and fiberglass insulation, which flooded Lower Manhattan like a tsunami, leaving Lower Manhattan covered in a “snow-like substance.” The South Tower was hit after the North Tower and less directly than the North Tower, indicating that the South Tower should have sustained less damage from both the impact of the airliner and the fires resulting from the impact. Yet the South Tower exploded into a rapidly descending mushroom cloud much earlier than did the North Tower.

WTC Building 7 sustained major damage to the south side of the structure during, concurrent with, or immediately after the demolition of the South Tower at 9:59 AM EDT on September 11th 2001, according to FDNY firefighters quoted in Firehouse Magazine articles published in April, May, and August of 2002. Much later in the day, at 5:20 PM EDT, WTC Building 7 suddenly imploded from within. Within 7 seconds the 47 story skyscraper was reduced to a large pile of rubble. The outer walls had fallen inward, draping themselves over the pulverized interior of the structure.

WTC Building 6 was almost completely demolished on September 11th 2001 by causes unknown. The roof of and interior of the structure was completely destroyed, while the exterior walls were left standing. The best way to describe the severe damage to WTC Building 6 is to say that the interior of the structure had been turned into a crater.

Many people of all walks of life have alleged that the Twin Towers “fell” due to fire.

Many people of all walks of life have alleged that the Twin Towers “fell” due to structural damage.

Many people of all walks of life have alleged that the Twin Towers “fell” due to a combination of structural damage and fire.

All three groups referenced above fail to acknowledge that the Twin Tower at free fall speed and that most of the solid mass of the Twin Towers, aside from the structural steel, was spontaneously converted into mushrooming clouds of dust particles as small as 100 microns in diameter.

Initially many eyewitnesses and professional journalists stated that the explosions and disintegrations of the Twin Towers resembled controlled demolitions. Since September 11th 2001, an ever- increasing body of threatened, bought-off, cowardly, fraudulent, and treasonous “scientists”, “journalists”, and “public servants” have obediently pusillanimously promoted a plethora of scientifically bogus cover stories designed to mislead the global “civilian” population.

I invite you to watch video footage of, any footage of the explosion and disintegration of the South Tower, the explosion and disintegration of the North Tower, and the implosion and collapse of WTC Building 7.

I suggest the CNN DVD, “America Remembers” and the Naudet brothers’ DVD “9/11”.

I further invite you to read the following fully sourced, on-the-record statements from eyewitnesses and survivors, including personnel from the FDNY, NYPD, CNN, CBS, and more….


THE SOUTH TOWER OF THE WORLD TRADE CENTER (WTC 2):
“ I went down to the scene and we set up headquarters at 75 Barclay Street, which was right there, with the police commissioner, the fire commissioner, the head of emergency management, and we were operating out of there when we were told that the World Trade Center was going to collapse. And it did collapse before we could actually get out of the building, so we were trapped in the building for ten, maybe fifteen minutes, and finally found an exit and got out, walked north, and took a lot of people with us.” – New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani admitting prior knowledge to the collapse of the South Tower. (ABC News, 9/11/01)

“There has just been a huge explosion. We can see a cascade of sparks and fire and now this. It looks almost like a mushroom cloud explosion. And I can’t, I’ll tell you that I can’t see that second building.”- Aaron Brown, anchor CNN NewsNight describing the demolition of the South Tower as he watches it live during live CNN broadcast on 9/11/01. (CNN Tribute, America Remembers: The Events of September 11 and America’s Response {Commemorative Edition} [DVD]) http://cnn.com/americaremembers

“There was this wall of smoke that just came up over the top of the buildings, maybe twenty, thirty stories tall, like a tidal wave. I grabbed my camera, the tripod and all I could think of at this point and time is, the building just collapsed, there’s a wall of smoke and debris coming at us. Is there gonna be another explosion? Is there gas? Is there chemicals? And we ran.”- Brian Kiederling, CNN videographer describing the demolition of the South Tower in an interview for the CNN documentary, America Remembers. (Ibid.)

“There was this tumbleweed of debris that came at the building and the building had all glass windows, so as the debris was coming toward me, over the tops of everything, the brightness of the sun was just completely blacked-out. And it became almost like nighttime and then there was just silence and there weren’t any more ambulances. You couldn’t hear the police cars. You couldn’t hear the people in the street anymore. And I walked up to the glass and looked out and it almost looked like a blizzard had hit New York. There was this snow everywhere. And there was just no noise coming from down toward the World Trade Center.” – Rose Arce, CNN producer describing her experience as the South Tower was demolished, in an interview for the CNN documentary, America Remembers. (Ibid)

“We were the first ones in the second tower after the plane struck. I was taking firefighters up in the elevator to the 24th floor to get in position to evacuate workers. On the second trip up a bomb went off. We think there was bombs set in the building.” – Louie Cacchioli, 20 year veteran of the New York Fire Department, Engine 47, describing explosions in the South Tower before it’s collapse. (Unsigned. “Our Heroes/United in Courage” People.com [People Magazine] 9/12/01)Archived online at People Weekly 9/24/01 and at: http://propagandamatrix.com/louie_cacchioli.htm

“The building came down so orderly, floor by floor, that I presumed it was a controlled demolition. I hoped that it was. Maybe they got all the people out and now they’re bringing the building down to prevent mass casualties.”- WNYC radio reporter and NPR contributor, Beth Fertig (Bull, Chris, and Sam Erman, At Ground Zero: 25 Stories From Young Reporters Who Were There. New York: Thunder’s Mouth Press, 2002: 184

“As more and more and more and more and more emergency vehicles descended on the World Trade Center, I hear a second explosion in WTC 2, then a loud, low- frequency that precipitates the unthinkable – a collapse of all the floors above the point of explosion. First the top surface, containing the helipad, tips sideways in full view. Then the upper floors fall straight down in a demolition-style implosion, taking all lower floors with it, even those below the point of the explosion.” – Neil deGrasse Tyson, Director of the Hayden Planetarium of the American Museum of Natural History in New York City and Vice President of The Planetary Society, commenting on the demolition of the South Tower as he witnessed it from his apartment six blocks away. From: An Eyewitness Account of the World Trade Center Attacks from Neil deGrasse Tyson, The Planetary Society, September 12th 2001; online at http://www.planetary.org/html/society/advisors/sept11account.html

“There was an explosion – I didn’t think it was an explosion – but the base of the building shook. I felt it shake …then when we were outside, the second explosion happened and then there was a series of explosions…We can only wonder at the kind of damage – the kind of human damage – that was caused by those explosions – those series of explosions.” – Steve Evans, BBC employee commenting on the demolition of the South Tower. From: Eyewitnesses Tell of Horror, BBC, September 11th 2001; online at http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/1537500.stm

“I heard this metallic roar, looked up and saw what I thought was just a peculiar site of individual floors, one after the other exploding outward. I thought to myself, “My God, they’re going to bring the building down.” And they, whoever they are, had set charges. In fact the building was imploding down.
I saw the explosions, and I thought, ‘This is not a good place to be, because we’re too close to the building, and it’s too easy for the building to topple over.’” – John Bussey, foreign editor for the Wall Street Journal describing the demolition of the South Tower. (The Newseum with Cathy Trost and Alicia C. Shepard. Running Toward Danger: Stories Behind The Breaking News of 9/11. Lanham, MD: Rowman & Littlefield Publishers, 2002: 87

“I was frantically punching my cell phone number and one of the things I hit was my Chicago producer’s number. I told them I was on my way to the World Trade Center. As I said that, the first collapse of the tower happened. I was on the line and said, ‘Oh my God, there’s been an explosion.’”- Carol Marin, contributing reporter to CBS News. (Ibid.: 91)

“The building was in front of me, but I turned my back. Then I hear the explosion. I saw the top of the building coming down.”- Bolivar Arellano, photojournalist for the New York Post. (Ibid.: 92.)

“[WABC-TV reporter N.J. Burkett] said he wanted to do a stand-up. He motioned, “ Me, the firefighters and tilt up to the building.” I asked for another one [a second take, as I always do, because you never know, there could be crease in the tape or whatever. As I tilted up, the density of the sound in the area changed. It became thick. As I tilted up, I could feel it, but I could really tell you that I knew what I was seeing. I was seeing the building blow up.
I kept tilting and heard him [Burkett] say that the building was exploding.” – Marty Glembotzy, cameraman for WABC-TV, describing the demolition of the South Tower. (Ibid.: 93)

Battalion Seven Chief: “Battalion Seven…
Ladder 15, we’ve got two isolated pockets of fire. We should be able to knock it down with two lines. Radio that, 78th floor numerous 10-45 Code Ones.”

Ladder 15: “What stair are you in Orio?”

Ladder 15: “ Chief, What stair you in?”

Battalion Seven Chief: “South stairway Adam, South Tower.”

Ladder 15: “Floor 78?”

Battalion Seven Chief: “Ten-four, numerous civilians, we gonna need two engines up here.”

Ladder 15: “Alright ten-four, we’re on our way.”

Battalion Seven Chief: “I’m gonna need two of your firefighters Adam, stairway to knock down two fires. We have house line stretched. We could use some water on it, knock it down, kay?”

–Excerpts from transcript of radio dialog between New York Fire Department Battalion Chief Orio J. Palmer and NYFD Ladder 15. This conversation took place about eleven minutes before the demolition of the South Tower. Orio J. Palmer and Fire Marshall Ronald P. Bucca had just reached the 78th floor of the South Tower as this tape was being recorded. The impact zone from the airplane crash stretched from the 78th floor to the 84th floor. Mr. Palmer was clearly stating that the fire was containable. From: Report: Tape Sheds Light on WTC Rescuers, 08/04/02 online at http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/08/04/wtc.firefighters/ Audio of above transcript available online at http://www.propagandamatrix.com/wtc_tape.mp3

“Then the South Tower collapsed. I remember standing in front of the window and feeling the ground start to vibrate. It was as though someone had just put a huge sock over our entire building. I mean, it went from that bright crisp morning to just total blackness, and then it felt like an earthquake.
…There were maybe fifty to one hundred people in the lobby and everyone started running outside. The air was cool and debris was everywhere. It looked like the surface of Mars, all this white sediment and piles of computer paper and pieces of desks and more paper just falling through the air.
…There was a stench outside. I could feel something very itchy all over me. I pulled my coat over my nose. The air wasn’t black anymore, but it was like a very heavy white fog.” – Michelle Wiley, a New York City musician commenting on her experience of the demolition of the South Tower from her apartment in Gateway Plaza, one block from the WTC. (Never Forget, An Oral History Of September 11th, 2001, Mitchell Fink and Lois Mathias, Regan Books/Harper Collins, 2002: pages 10-11)

“All of a sudden I hear this sound, a noise like I’ve never heard in my life, the most frightening sound I’ve ever heard, like a thousand helicopters on top of us. And a rumbling like the earth was about to split apart. That was the first tower falling. We live on the eleventh floor, in a loft. Our windows shattered. Smoke started to come in, debris started in come in, and we were completely in darkness.
…We made it out of the apartment on our stomachs and people were screaming. People had glass in their hair, completely gray, full of soot and bleeding.
…We couldn’t get out of the building because once you got outside the door you couldn’t see a foot in front of you.
…The debris was like snow. We saw twisted metal, blood, clothing. I saw a baby carriage. It was like a war and we were refuges.
…You couldn’t run in this debris. It was like trying to run in the sand.
…My girlfriend had gotten debris in her eyes and in her throat, so she couldn’t really see for a while because the flakes were so big.” – Spencer Korbin, a New York City writer, commenting on his experience of the demolition of the South Tower from his apartment on Greenwich Street, two blocks from the WTC (Ibid.: pages 12-13)

“When the second plane went into the building, it just looked like an evil magician’s trick. It looked nothing like what I would have imagined a plane crashing into a building would look like. The plane just completely disappeared and turned into a giant fireball.
…Coming back across Brooklyn again you could see that the South Tower was already down. The entire lower Manhattan was covered in a giant white dust cloud. And as you came around to the North Tower again, you could still see the people falling and jumping, except it didn’t look so violent anymore because you weren’t watching them hit the ground. It was almost peaceful because they were falling into a white cloud.”
– Steven Bienkowski, police officer and scuba diver with the Harbor Unit Scuba Team of the New York City Police Department, describing his experience of the destruction of the South Tower as he witnessed it from an NYPD Air Sea Rescue helicopter (Ibid.: page16)

“We heard this rumbling sound, which was the South Tower collapsing, but we didn’t know that at the time. I thought the elevators were coming down, or part of the building or the plane or something was crashing through the lobby, because it started to fill quickly with debris.
We ran around a little corner toward 6 World Trade. We pushed everybody around the corner. We actually huddled down at the base of the escalator, the escalator that leads up to 6 World Trade and then to the North Bridge over West Street. But now this whole area, which was brightly lit, became totally black. We stayed there until the rumbling stopped, and we knew we were alive.
But I thought that it was a localized collapse. I never even suspected that the second tower collapsed.
…We went across the West Bridge with Jules and an EMS lieutenant. I went back and forth a few times and still didn’t know that the South Tower had collapsed. You couldn’t see it. What you saw was smoke. Many times when you get a big fire, smoke covers the building and you don’t see the building. But you know the building is still there. So when we looked, we were at a bad angle. It was just dust that covered where the building would be.” – Joseph Pfeifer, New York Fire Department Chief, Battalion 1, describing the demolition of the South Tower as he experienced it from the lobby of the North Tower (Ibid.: page 20)

“…It sounded like another plane was coming in. The firefighter and I just looked at each other and we dropped what we had and started to make our way back toward the firehouse, running down Liberty Street. The sound was deafening. I really thought it was another plane coming. I thought it was a 747 looking to make a landing on Liberty Street.
…So we ran into the firehouse.
…The impact of the South Tower collapsing literally picked me up and threw me through the air. I landed face first on the ground and a wave of debris came blowing by me. Things were hitting me, smoke, dirt, dust, and who-the-hell knows what else. It was instant blackness, the thickest, most choking smoke you could imagine. And I thought, ‘I’m in a firehouse…’
…There were people that were just picked up and blown around by the thing when it came down.
…Eventually, we got most of the firehouse completely evacuated through the back of the building because the front of it was completely covered in debris.
When the South Tower came down, I had gotten all kinds of injuries. Later on, when I went to the hospital, I found that I had a concussion, whiplash, smoke inhalation, cuts and bruises, and all kinds of stuff. And that was all just from the impact of the South Tower collapsing.” – Brain Smith, New York Fire Department, Battalion 31, describing his experience of the demolition of the South Tower. (Ibid.: pages 28 & 29)

“As we were nearing the park, we heard this noise, some people call it a rumble. I heard snapping, a tremendous snapping. I looked back and all I could see was the tsunami wave of dust and debris that was just rolling, and it was going to get us in a second.
…The wave was just about to get my back. It was ashy, but it was thick. You felt like your face was getting cut.
…Then I remember seeing a ray of sunshine coming through this dark haze, and I’m thinking, I’m not going to die. I’m going to be okay.
…My girls in wheelchairs, Becky Zheng and Stephanie Sealy, their stories send chills down your spine. At one point, the paraprofessionals, the classroom assistants responsible for the two girls, literally took them off the wheelchairs because there was so much debris and so much garbage on the road that the wheels wouldn’t turn. They simply put them on their backs and started running with them.” – Ada Rosario-Dolch, Principal of the High School for Leadership and Public Service, describing her experience of the destruction of the South Tower. (Ibid.: pages 39 & 40)

‘Breaking News: Third Explosion Shatters World Trade Center in New York.’ – video banner broadcast on TV screens across America and around the world during instant replay of the demolition of the South Tower on CNN on 9/11/01. This can be seen in the DVD “In Plane Site” available from http://www.thepowerhour.com

THE NORTH TOWER OF THE WORLD TRADE CENTER (WTC 1):

Captain Dennis Tardio, Engine 7 FDNY: “We got down to the lobby and we saw they abandoned the command post. We knew we were in trouble.”

Pat Zoda, Engine 7 FDNY: “We came down. It was, it was, it was much worse than it was when we went up. Right? We went up. They had everything set up. We came down. It was desolate.”

Captain Dennis Tardio, Engine 7 FDNY: “We came down to the lobby. It was like a fucking war zone. There was nobody there. Where the fuck? What do we do? We made it outside. We made it about a block?”

Pat Zoda, Engine 7 FDNY: “We made it at least two blocks.”

Captain Dennis Tardio, Engine 7 FDNY: “Two blocks.”

Pat Zoda, Engine 7 FDNY: “…and we started runnin’.”

Captain Dennis Tardio, Engine 7 FDNY: “Pock, pock, pock, pock, pock, pock, pock, pock!”

Pat Zoda, Engine 7 FDNY: “Floor by floor, it started poppin’ out.”

Captain Dennis Tardio, Engine 7 FDNY: “It was like, it was if, it was as if they had detonated.”

Pat Zoda, Engine 7 FDNY: “Yeah, detonated.”

Captain Dennis Tardio, Engine 7 FDNY: “You know, as if there were a plan to take down a building, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom!”

Pat Zoda, Engine 7 FDNY: “All the way down. I was watchin’ it and runnin’.”

Captain Dennis Tardio, Engine 7 FDNY: “We ran.”

Pat Zoda, Engine 7 FDNY: “And then you just saw this cloud of shit chasin’, chasin’ you down.”

Unknown FDNY fireman, in uniform, but slightly off camera: “Where’d you go?”

Pat Zoda, Engine 7 FDNY: “You couldn’t out run it. I jumped behind a battalion car. I hid under the car. I was waitin’ to die.”

– Transcript of a segment of the Naudet brothers’ documentary film “9/11”. This segment was filmed inside the FDNY downtown Manhattan firehouse, housing FDNY Engine 7 and Ladder 1 on September 11th 2001. There are numerous other firefighters in the firehouse, including Nick Borrillo of FDNY Ladder 1, listening as Tardio and Zoda recount what they saw, heard, and felt as the North Tower of the World Trade Center was demolished. ( 9/11, The Filmmakers’ Commemorative DVD Edition, a film by Jules and Gideon Naudet and James Hanlon, 2001 Goldfish Pictures, Inc.)

“I hear simultaneously this roar and see what appears to be a gigantic fireball rising up at ground level…I remember thinking that the fire and explosion didn’t get us but the smoke will if we don’t get out of here soon.
…I remember seeing this giant ball of fire come out of the earth as I heard this roar and thinking, ‘Who’s going to explain to my kids that I needed to be at the World Trade Center on this day?’” – Carol Marin, CBS News contributor, describing the demolition of the North Tower. (Op Cit., Newseum: pages 119 & 239)

“The reporters were trying to figure out what had happened. We were thinking bombs had brought the buildings down. The mayor talked to us and said he had no evidence of bombs.” – Beth Fertig, WNYC radio reporter, commenting on events at New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani’s command center after the demolitions of both of the Twin Towers. (Ibid.: 203.)

“We never thought the other building was going to fall. And then all of a sudden we heard this rumbling and then some guy screams, “Run!” We turn around and it was like being in a monster movie. We’re just shooting through this alley of buildings, and it was right on our tail. We ran as fast as we could. Fortunately, we were younger than a lot of people out there, and I guess in better shape. Some of the people we were walking with were just left there. We saw them being knocked over by debris. On television it looked like just a cloud of smoke. But it was monitors and desks and chairs, flying through the air, pieces of metal
…Then we were taken to Staten Island Hospital, my girlfriend and myself. These guys in white shoes and bioterrorism suits came out to meet us. They waved and said, “Where are you guys coming from?”
We said, “Manhattan. We were in the Trade Center incident.”
They waved us to another area and made us take off all our clothing. They showered us down in public, no clothes. They didn’t want our clothes in the hospital. We were naked, both of us. There were a couple of other naked people. They tried to cordon us off. They were so terrified that it was chemical warfare. They burnt our clothes. Our clothes were gone. Our shoes, her boots, whatever we were wearing. Our ID and credit cards were decontaminated for us. I never saw anybody talk about this on the news.
Then they brought us in as though we were lepers.
…When the second building fell, stuff just flew out of our apartment.
…When we tried to get back into the building, our building was a crime scene. They found body parts on terraces. They found a torso in a plane seat on our roof. Our building was one of the last buildings to be reopened. They had to reface it, decontaminate it, and of course put in all new windows. There was a luncheonette that we’d eat at in the morning, a block north from my apartment. It was completely destroyed, completely blown out, and I’m sure the place was full of people.”
-Spencer Korbin, a New York City writer, commenting on his experience of the demolition of the North Tower from outside his apartment on Greenwich Street, two blocks from the WTC and his experiences thereafter. (Never Forget, An Oral History Of September 11th, 2001, Mitchell Fink and Lois Mathias, Regan Books/Harper Collins, 2002: pages 13 and 14)

“As we were coming around to the North Tower, I said, ‘Oh, my God, it looks like it’s tilting.’ It came down a couple of minutes afterward, completely straight down, like a deck of cards.
The entire thickness of the cloud of dust was like nothing you’ve ever seen…” – Steven Bienkowski, police officer and scuba diver with the Harbor Unit Scuba Team of the New York City Police Department, describing his experience of the destruction of the North Tower as he witnessed it from an NYPD Air Sea Rescue helicopter (Ibid.: page16)

“ We were only out there a few minutes when we heard a loud rumbling sound, almost like a train if you’re standing underneath an overpass. And somebody yelled, “The building’s coming down. Run.”
…And then I heard all the crashing and the steel and now the street goes completely black. As a firefighter you kind of expect blackness inside of a burning building. But outside in broad daylight, you don’t.” – Joseph Pfeifer, New York Fire Department Chief, Battalion 1, describing the demolition of the North Tower as he experienced it from outdoors at the WTC complex. (Ibid.: page 21)

“And just when we were getting ready to do our last run through the building, my partner, another firefighter, and I started to hear that sound again. It sounded like another plane coming in. At this point it seemed like all these planes forgot where La Guardia Airport was. Everybody was looking to make a landing. I had no idea what had really happened. I just thought they were planes. I didn’t know until after I left Manhattan that the towers even came down. I just thought that 747s were landing all over the place. I honestly thought that a plane landed on Liberty Street in front of the firehouse, and that by some miracle I survived it.
We got up and after a few more scares we were able to pick our way through the back of the firehouse. That’s where Fu was.
…We carried him about two blocks south to Rector Street. Everything was on fire, smoke everywhere, and it was just complete bedlam. It looked like a war zone.” – Brain Smith, New York Fire Department, Battalion 31, describing his experience of the demolition of the North Tower. (Ibid. page 29)

“The North Tower was still burning out of control. Even at that point, it wasn’t on my mind that the other tower would come down. I never even thought about it. I was just focused on these guys. We got to the north pedestrian bridge and I remember hearing a noise like thunder. I hear it in my nightmares all the time. I never forget. I just looked up and you could see the antenna on top of the North Tower moving, and you knew it was coming down. There was no time to scream. If you hesitated, you were dead. There were about ten people in the area where we were. Only three of us made it out alive. I started running. I dropped everything I had. The gush of air that came down with the building picked me up and literally threw me through the air, almost like Peter Pan.
I landed not too far from the truck that I had responded in. Something told me to crawl underneath that truck. That’s where I ended up. I couldn’t hear anything. I remember screaming for Danny, and every time I’d breath in it was as if my head was stuck in sand.
…and I just started digging. I don’t know how long I was under the truck before I figured this out, but I started crawling my way out of there, digging through the rocks and debris. Just as I got out, a fireman who had been lodged in the debris had gotten himself out.
…People started calling out, ‘Is anybody out there?’ We went toward their voices. It was a deli owner and his wife. They pulled us in their deli. About six or seven cops and some firemen were already in there, all variously injured and having a hard time breathing. They had taken a hose out of the kitchen to clean everybody off. I had first-degree burns on every part of my skin that was exposed. Stuff started exploding outside the store. One of the cops thought that it might be secondary explosions. When terrorists do this sort of thing, they’ll put secondary bombs around to kill rescue workers. That’s an earmark of terrorism. And at that point you didn’t know what to believe. Everybody had lost all concept of what was going on, and everything was up for grabs. For all we knew, they had attacked all of Manhattan.
…I keep going to the doctors and they keep doing blood work. I still have very severe muscle cramps. Everybody still has shortness of breath, and ear, and mouth infections. I’ve actually lost a couple of teeth and they can’t figure out why.
…Hopefully it will get better. But the doctors don’t really have answers about what was inhaled that day. God knows what was in all that stuff, the levels of trace metals and asbestos and mercury, the gas from the air-conditioning units and mercury from the light bulbs. Nobody really knows.
I told health services, ‘You know, I lost two teeth. They just fell out.’
They said, ‘Well, you should see your dentist.’
I said, ‘No, you don’t understand. My teeth just fell out of my head. There’s got to be a reason.’” – Gary Smiley, FDNY Battalion 31 Paramedic, describing his experience of the destruction of the North Tower. (Ibid. pages 34 & 35)

“We have another report now, of a fourth explosion at the Trade Center…
…It almost looks like one of those implosions of buildings that you see.”-Aaron Brown, CNN anchor NewsNight, in two clips broadcast live on 9/11/01. The first is either before or during the demolition of the North Tower. The second is during a replay of footage of the demolition of the North Tower. Both can be seen in the DVD ‘In Plane Site”, which is available from http://www.thepowerhour.com

BOTH OF THE TWIN TOWERS (WTC 1 & 2):

“You have two 110 story office buildings. You don’t find a desk. You don’t find a chair. You don’t find a telephone, a computer. The biggest piece of a telephone I found was half of the keypad and it was about this big (hold his fingers approximately 21/2 to 3 inches apart). The building collapsed to dust! How are we supposed to find anybody in this, that there’s nothing left of the building.” – Joe Casaliggi, Engine 7 FDNY, in an interview conducted for and included in the Naudet brothers’ documentary, “9/11”. ( 9/11, The Filmmakers’ Commemorative DVD Edition, a film by Jules and Gideon Naudet and James Hanlon, 2001 Goldfish Pictures, Inc.)

“There was smoke everywhere. I heard the bomb and saw both buildings crumble like biscuits.”- Nadine Keller, WTC demolition eyewitness. From: Eyewitnesses Tell of Horror, BBC, September 11 2001; online at http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/1537500.stm

“The collapse of the buildings appears ‘too methodical’ to be a chance result of airplanes colliding with the structures, said Van Romero, vice president for research at New Mexico Institute for Mining and Technology.
‘My opinion is, based on the videotapes, that after the airplanes hit the World Trade Center there were some explosive devices inside the buildings that caused the towers to collapse,’ Romero said.” – Olivier Uyttebrouck, Explosives Planted In Towers, NM Tech Expert Says, Albuquerque Journal, 9/11/01; available online at http://propagandamatrix.com/Fire_Not_Extra_Explosives_Doomed_Buildings_Expert_Says.htm

“Conspiracy theorists have seized on Mr. Romero’s comments as evidence for their argument that someone else, possibly the U.S. government, was behind the attack on the Trade Center.
Romero said he has been bombarded with electronic mail from the conspiracy theorists.
‘I’m very upset about that,’ he said.’I’m not trying to say anything did or didn’t happen.’” – John Fleck, in a follow up to the previous article on Van Romero titled, Fire, Not Extra Explosives, Doomed Buildings, Expert Says, Albuquerque Journal, 9/21/01; available online at http://propagandamatrix.com/Fire_Not_Extra_Explosives_Doomed_Buildings_Expert_Says.htm

“A lead engineer who designed the World Trade Center expressed shock that the towers collapsed after being hit by passenger jets.
‘I designed it for a 707 to hit it,’ Lee Robertson, the project’s structural engineer said. The Boeing 707 has a fuel capacity of more than 23,000 gallons, comparable to the 767’s 23,980-gallon fuel capacity.
Another architect of the WTC, Aaron Swirski, lives in Israel and spoke to Jerusalem Post Radio after the attack: ’It was designed around that eventuality to survive this kind of attack.’ he said.
Hyman Brown, a University of Colorado civil engineering professor and the World Trade Center’s construction manager, watched in confusion as the towers came down. ‘It was over-designed to withstand almost anything, including hurricanes, high winds, bombings, and an airplane hitting it.’ He said.” – Christopher Bollyn, Eyewitness Reports Persist Of Bombs At WTC Collapse, American Free Press, 12/02/01; archived online at http://www.rense.com/general17/eyewitnessreportspersist.htm

“So we kept walking, sort of around the disaster area, trudging through this snow like substance. There was pieces of their desks and pieces of the photos on their desks and their Rolexes and documents. There was a resume from a kid that had gone to my college, who was applying for a job to work in the World Trade Center. It was very much like a weird movie, like, you know, ‘The Day After’, like a nuclear accident or a nuclear winter. It didn’t make any sense.” – Rose Arce, CNN producer describing the devastation following the demolitions of the Twin Towers, in an interview conducted for the CNN documentary, America Remembers. (CNN Tribute: America Remembers: The Events of September 11 and America’s Response {Commemorative Edition} [DVD])

– u“ In the area of where the blast occurred from the commercial jetliners, it’s like a nuclear winter, ash, soot piled on top of cars three inches deep.” - Unknown male announcer or journalist, describing Ground Zero on 9/12/01 (Ibid.)

WORLD TRADE CENTER BUILDING 7 (WTC 7):

CBS News anchor Dan Rather: “A large building, in most other cities it would be one of the largest buildings in town probably, Trade Center building 7 has collapsed. Now here were gonna show you a videotape of the collapse it’s self. Now here we go to videotape, the collapse of this building.”

Unknown male voice at CBS: “It’s amazing.”

CBS News anchor Dan Rather: “Amazing, incredible pick your word. For the third time today, it’s reminiscent of those pictures we’ve all seen too much on television before, where a building was deliberately destroyed by well placed dynamite to knock it down.”

-Transcript of live CBS News broadcast on 9/11/01 in which Dan Rather comments on what he sees as he watches videotape of the demolition of WTC building 7. This video clip can be seen in Alex Jones documentary video ‘Police State III: Total Enslavement’, available from http://www.infowars.com

“I remember getting a call from, uh, the Fire Department Commander, telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire. I said, ‘you know we’ve had such a terrible loss of life. Maybe the smartest thing to do is, is pull it.’ And they made that decision to pull and then we watched the building collapse.” – Transcript of PBS interview with WTC leaseholder Larry Silverstein, delivering an explanation of unknown authenticity, as to how and why the decision was made to demolish WTC Building 7. (Originally broadcast on PBS, September 2003)

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More 9/11 WTC Eyewitness Accounts Consistent With Controlled Demolition:

Explosive Testimony:
Revelations about the Twin Towers in the 9/11 Oral Histories
By David Ray Griffin

http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20060118104223192

Eyewitnesses Recalled Explosions, No Alarms or Sprinklers:
http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/eyewitnesses.html
United in Courage:
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/people.html
9/11 Rescuer Saw Explosions Inside WTC 6 Lobby:
http://killtown.blogspot.com/2006/02/911-rescuer-saw-explosions-inside-wtc.html

A Resident's View

By Ron J. Berard

http://www.musarium.com/stories/america-attacked/berard/index.html

9/11:Allen Ruch:

http://www.themodernword.com/091101.html

Eyewitness Reports of Explosions Before WTC Collapses:

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/eyewitness.html

Eyewitness Reports Persist

Of
Bombs At WTC Collapse
By Christopher Bollyn
Exclusive to American Free Press
12-2-1

http://www.rense.com/general17/eyewitnessreportspersist.htm

William Frankenstein

Student in his junior year at Stuyvesant High School

http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/static/in_depth/americas/2001/day_of_terror/eyewitness/9.stm

WTC Workers and 9/11 Eyewitnesses Coming Forward about Bombs:

http://www.vocaboly.com/forums/ftopic6923.html

NYFD fire fighter Louie Cacchioli in People Magazine:

http://propagandamatrix.com/louie_cacchioli.htm

NIST’S WTC FIRE TEST PROVES NOTHING:

http://inn.globalfreepress.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=735

AMERICAN FREE PRESS:

http://www.americanfreepress.net/10_22_01/Some_Survivors_Say__Bombs_Expl/some_survivors_say__bombs_expl.html

NBC: FDNY Chief of Safety Reported Bombs Both Within the Towers and on the Planes on 9/11 http://www.prisonplanet.tv/articles/may2004/050504bombsinwtc.htm

When The Explosives Were Placed: WTC South Tower Upper Floors Closed on 9/8 & 9/9

http://sf.indymedia.org/news/2004/04/1691636.php

http://prisonplanet.tv/articles/april2004/042304explosivesplaced.htm

9/11 Firefighter Observes: "The Building Collapsed to Dust"

http://prisonplanet.tv/articles/may2004/051404collapsedtodust.htm

CBS News Channel Eyewitness Describes 'Secondary Explosions' in the WTC http://www.prisonplanet.tv/articles/april2004/042704secondaryexplosions.htm

New York Firefighters Discuss Bombs in WTC Towers

http://www.prisonplanet.com/032404firefightersdiscuss.html

Update: World Trade Center 7 Imploded by Silverstein, FDNY and Others

http://www.prisonplanet.com/011904wtc7.html

Geronimo Jones WTC Eyewitness:

http://www.911wasalie.com/phpwebsite/index.php?module=announce&ANN_user_op=view&ANN_id=13


Mike & Timothy

How is it a personal attack to wonder what makes Charlie sheen, "credible" on 9/11 conspiracy theories. Is he a scientist or engineer? A government insider? I mean it is a completely logical question to ask when they call him "highly credible" in the article and "prominent credible whistelblower" in the headline. Why? Why is he anymore credible than anyone else? I simply went on to point out the history we know about "Mr. Sheen" (lol), when quesitioning what makes him "credible", and sarcastically said:

Now if those don't all make him an authority on the real story of 9/11, I don't know what does!

That's a personal attack? It's simply stating the obvious, that he's not an authority on the real story of 9/11... Unless you can explain why he is an authority? Can you? Oh that's right, because he's a celebrity and made headlines with an idea your cult has been desperate to mainstream, suddenly he's credible when he has no expertise in any area important to your "points".

The fact is, he didn't come with some kind of new evidence, he actually gave a watered down version of what you nuts have been saying for a long time.. He obviously stumbled across a couple of your idiotic web sites, and didn't take the time to study the debunking information and look at the obvious fact that it would require thousands of people keeping their mouths shut to pull this off, and it's just beyond insane to believe it was doable.

Anyway, yeah Bush and co. pulled off this undoable stunt and forgot to make the collapse look "real", right? The unbelievable ammount of planning and people involved, and somehow Dubya forgot to say "hey, and make them towers fall like it's real, not like a planned implosion"... How stupid do you have to be?

You guys want to tell me to debate the evidence? You guys are hit and run.. you toss stuff out, get it knocked down and toss other stuff out, and round and round we go.. I've been there before, and it's a waste... Anyone come up with the evidence that the PM article researcher Ben Chertoff is related to Michael, if so how close, or if they have been in any recent contact? Anyway, particularly with the Pentagon thing... that used to be the one that you could get someone to scratch their head on, but then there's this
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/911_pentagon_757_plane_evidence.html

We can do this about every issue you raise, but you're so out of your minds what's the point?

The "conspiracy" debunkers are unique in that they rely almost soley on personal attacks instead of trying to debate specific evidence. I'll give you one to gnaw on that you can't refute.

The basements of the twin towers burned hotter than the temperatures of molten metal for several weeks after the collapses. Supposedly heat driven by jet fuel.

In my entire career as a structural engineer seen such a blatant disregard for the laws of thermodynamics completely ignored.

who is personally attacking (or attacked) here:
http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/defense/1227842.html?page=1&c=y
or here:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/911_pentagon_757_plane_evidence.html
or here:
http://www.911myths.com/
or the tons of other debunking sites out there that deal with the evidence...

Even if there are some who personally attack (nothing I've read though), the argument could be made that it's because they are sickened by the disrespect for the families and those who died on 9/11 when conspiracy theorists put forth the idea that the people on the planes are still alive somewhere (because some of the theories, I'm sure you know, say that the planes were switched and the original passenger planes landed somewhere), or the fact that you question the cell phone calls, etc. etc. The whole thing is a fun hobby for you people, but you know it's ridiculous and about all it acomplishes is upsetting the 9/11 families.

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