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Fox News Poll on Electronic Surveillance Contradicts AP Poll

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A new Fox News-Opinion Dynamics poll completely contradicts an AP-Ipsos poll on the same topic. This is suspicious to say the least. You might recall an AP-Ipsos poll out just a couple days ago, that supposedly said that Americans didn't support the NSA monitoring electronic communications between people in the US and suspected terrorists overseas:

56 percent of respondents in an AP-Ipsos poll said the government should be required to first get a court warrant to eavesdrop on the overseas calls and e-mails of U.S. citizens when those communications are believed to be tied to terrorism.

Agreeing with the White House, some 42 percent of those surveyed do not believe the court approval is necessary.

You'll recall, I was immediately skeptical (read original post, and comments) of the results because they would have meant that Americans were "either idiots, misinformed, dishonest, or had their answers manipulated by a poll with shady questioning methods." I was leaning more towards tricky questions, and maybe some misinformation. Any honest person would have to admit that the media hasn't portrayed this situation honestly from the get go, and we already know the history of misleading poll taking from the MSM. I wanted to see the exact questions from that poll, but I never did.

Here's the difference with the Fox News poll... they provide a link to PDF document showing the exact poll questions and a detailed breakdown of all the results. They are totally transparent, and clearly nothing tricky done with the questions... here's the difference in the results though:
(poll question)

30. Do you think the president should or should not have the power to
authorize the National Security Agency to monitor electronic communications
of suspected terrorists without getting warrants, even if one end of the
communication is in the United States?

(excerpt from article)
By 58 percent to 36 percent, Americans think the president should have the power to authorize the National Security Agency (NSA) to monitor electronic communications of suspected terrorists without getting warrants, even if one end of the communication is in the United States. Furthermore, six in 10 say they are personally okay with the NSA monitoring their international telephone calls.


Fox News Story
Poll Results - PDF

Hmmm... Something isn't right here. If the AP-Ipsos poll asked the same question, in an honest way, how is it their numbers showed 56% said court approval was necessary (compared with 36% in the FNC poll), and 42% said it wasn't necessary (compared with 58% in the FNC poll.) It doesn't add up. So I stand firm, again, that the AP-Ipsos poll must have used tricky questioning, because these two sets of poll results aren't even close, and Fox's poll lays it all out for us to see.

I recommend actually viewing the poll results PDF to see the full breakdown, in addition to all the other questions and results. Although I think this discrepancy is the most important story here, there are a lot of interesting results in the poll. Like, as usual, people personally feeling good about their lives... but are very pessimistic about the country. This always happens in economic polls for the simple reason that the economy has been great for a number of years now, but the media portrays it as on the verge of collapse. Studies have shown how negatively the news media portrays it, despite the realities... and it always plays out in opinion polls.

Another disturbing result in this poll, but something we've been seeing for a while, is that Americans are more concerned with the economy than terrorism. What's wrong with you people!? Short memories have lead to a false sense of security, and the Misleadstream Media has convinced them to be scared about the economy, despite the overwhelming positive personal feelings of Americans, about their own situations.

But as we all know, this whole "Bush is spying on you" scandal was bogus from day one. Just this week's phony "scandal" or "controversy" that the media and Senate Dems launch out there hoping it will stick. It's literally almost a weekly thing that they do this, but it almost always gets knocked down and then disappears from the headlines when the Dems and the NY Times put their heads together for the next one.

More:
Real Clear Politics
Sensible Mom
Macsmind
The Strata-Sphere

UPDATE: Documenting the deception of the AP-Ipsos poll.. another one bites the dust:
Read these posts by Newsbusters and Ankle Biting Pundits, because they did the legwork anyway. Great stuff. Nice bust guys.

 

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The difference in wording betwen "believed to be tied to terrorism" vs. "suspected terrorists" probably accounts for much of the difference. The AP wording suggests that the gov't is acting on a mere subjective "belief" regarding vague "ties" to the even vaguer "terrorism." That sounds like the gov't is acting capriciously and indiscriminately at times. "Suspected terrorists" however is objective (since one is a suspect only as a result of evidence) and concrete (suggesting an actual person bent on killing Americans). The former is obviously designed to produce a certain result (which it obtained), but then again, the latter may be so designed as well. Polls are absolutely meaningless, since the science of manipulating question wording and sampling is so advanced that any pollster who can't produce a result that pleases his client probably can't stay in business for long, since there are so many others who can.

I agree, polls in general are useless David... But I would suggest checking out that update I added. Those two links explain what the AP did... polling many non-voters, and oversampling Dems. It goes deeper than you'd think.

As a Republican I can say the Ap-lpsos poll is probably right. Of course we have become a party of denial, doggedly incapable of admitting wrong doings, cooking the books at every turn. Bought spin is relentless and fantastically biased beyond imagination. Integrity and honesty are at a premium I'm growing increasingly disgusted with us. We're monsterously obstinent. It is grotesque. There are no loyalties to our beloved country anymore.

As a Republican I can say the Ap-lpsos poll is probably right. Of course we have become a party of denial, doggedly incapable of admitting wrong doings, cooking the books at every turn. Bought spin is relentless and fantastically biased beyond imagination. Integrity and honesty are at a premium I'm growing increasingly disgusted with us. We're monsterously obstinent. It is grotesque. There are no loyalties to our beloved country anymore.

Um... actually the AP-Ipsos poll was thoroughly discredited. Read my entire post, but particularly the supplied links. It was bogus and that's a FACT. They asked Dems in extreme disproportion to Republicans and they asked the question in tricky ways to get the desired outcome.

And do you think anyone is really stupid enough to think you're a Republican? Like we haven't seen your ilk on blog comments and call in to radio shows hundreds of times with the "I'm a Republican, but....(insert Michael Moorish typ rant here.)" No one is stupid enough to believe that you're actually a Republican, and your game is really played out so just STFU already.

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